[RESOLVED] Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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[RESOLVED] Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Hi guys. I just recently installed Version 4.4 today and encountered an issue while streaming on twitch. its hard to explain so I will let you watch the video posted. Now i uninstalled the 4.4 client and re installed the 4.3 client and had no issues. I then went back to the 4.4 client just to verify 100% and sure enough had the same issue under 4.4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXPZWXp ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Hello American398

Have you tried regenerating the Prepar3D.cfg file ?

Have a look at the topic below for steps to take.

Let us know how you get on

viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=131587
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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tried both those steps and got the same result on 4.4
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Hello American398

Thank you for posting the video

Can you explain a little more on the Issue you are experiencing ?
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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well whenever i use game capture on OBS and then i go to a menu in P3D, when i close the menu it freezes on OBS/Twitch stream. P3D runs fine but OBS still displays a frozen menu. This only happens on 4.4. 4.3 is fine no issues.
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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We have had hardware acceleration disabled in WPF for previous releases. We enabled it in 4.4 because we didn't see any adverse effects of doing so unless we were using GPU debugging tools. This might be related to why your streaming app is hanging. I believe there are ways to force this off in the OS. If you are comfortable making registry modifications on your PC, this MSDN article may provide some usefull information on diagnosing if this is the cause.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet ... y-settings

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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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I’m sorry guys, I’m not going to jump through hoops. I’ll just go back to 4.3
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Beau Hollis wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:29 am We have had hardware acceleration disabled in WPF for previous releases. We enabled it in 4.4 because we didn't see any adverse effects of doing so unless we were using GPU debugging tools. This might be related to why your streaming app is hanging. I believe there are ways to force this off in the OS. If you are comfortable making registry modifications on your PC, this MSDN article may provide some usefull information on diagnosing if this is the cause.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet ... y-settings

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Hi Beau,

Some guys are using also this registry edit to allow Reshade to work under P3D 4.4, however I am wondering if it would be posible to disable the hardware acceleration only for P3D via some manifest file or something similar instead of doing it via regedit for the entire range of WPF application under the operating system.

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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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We will turn it back off in the next release. Unfortunately, it looks like it takes a .net call from code linked to the app to change the mode at a per-app level. It might be possible for an add-on to modify the setting using C++ to C# interop, but it doesn't look like there is any OS configuration for it.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet ... RenderMode

The reg edit could probably be automated by making a pair of batch scripts for enabling/disabling the global setting. As always, exercise caution if you choose to modify the registry.

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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Will this problem with P3Dv4.4 affect video recording and playback on a local PC?
For example , to create a video to post on YouTube?
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Beau Hollis wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:20 am We will turn it back off in the next release. Unfortunately, it looks like it takes a .net call from code linked to the app to change the mode at a per-app level. It might be possible for an add-on to modify the setting using C++ to C# interop, but it doesn't look like there is any OS configuration for it.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet ... RenderMode

The reg edit could probably be automated by making a pair of batch scripts for enabling/disabling the global setting. As always, exercise caution if you choose to modify the registry.

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Hi Beau,

Understood, I will try to do a freeware that change this setting at runtime for P3D until the next realise. This way people can operate as before without changing their registry, etc.

I will report back when is done so users can use that tool to allow RESHADE, recording and other similar apps with issues to work in the meantime.

Thanks for the links.

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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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I tested video recording and playback .. all ok with P3Dv4.4
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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just update to the most recent graphics drivers and the issue persists.
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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Hi ! I had this problem with Geforce experience, I fixed it by deactivating the notifications in geforce experience.
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Re: Streamin/Menu Freeze with 4.4

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BLB wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:26 pm Hi ! I had this problem with Geforce experience, I fixed it by deactivating the notifications in geforce experience.
Ok, thanks for the reply. Will do that and report back with the results.
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