[RESOLVED] Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

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[RESOLVED] Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:12 pm

Hi P3D Support team,
first, I thought that this was a problem with my FSLabs A320 addon but today I saw the problem on the PMDG 747 as well so it has to be a simulator related problem.

Somehow, after a bit of time using the simulator, my aircraft wont recognize VORs and ADFs anymore.

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I´ve inserted a picture here showing the MCDU on the RAD NAV page as well as the ND screen on my FSLabs A320 spawned on the runway at EDDM. Tuned in as VOR is MUN on the frequency 112.300. That´s the correct frequency as of now which I have cheched with help of my Nav Data Pro up to date charts.

In the ADF field, I had tuned in MIQ, which is in the north of EDDM.

As you can see, I can tune the frequencies and abbreviations of the VORs and ADFs in, but they won´t be shown to me. So I can´t see the distance and the direction where to find them.

Navaids are up to date. ORBX Global and several airports around Europe in use. Problem does NOT ONLY occur at EDDM but all around the world.

Would be nice, if somebody could find a fix for that:)

Would also be nice if someone could tell me, where the data for these VORs and ADFs is saved.

Best regards,
Daniel

(P3D V4.4 in use, jowever it did occur in previous version as well)

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby Martyson » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:26 pm

Are you seeing a problem tuning default scenery Navaids / Airport Navaids with default P3D aircraft?
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:32 pm

So you mean spawning a default aircraft at a default scenery and try to tune in the frequency of a VOR or NDB? I´m gonna check that;) Stay tuned please. And thanks for the quick reply.

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby Martyson » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:37 pm

So you mean spawning a default aircraft at a default scenery and try to tune in the frequency of a VOR or NDB? I´m gonna check that;) Stay tuned please. And thanks for the quick reply.
The basic reason is to verify if the Sim is working in its default form.

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Your screenshot was not zoomed in enough for good detail observation.
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby WarpD » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:50 pm

MUN is a high altitude VOR/DME that would not be detected at low altitudes, especially on the runway surface.

MIQ is at 426.5 according to sim data and the chart only shows 426.
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby FCXEVV » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Hi,

You'd better tell the MUN Vor that it's high altitude because it doesn't know :)
In default F22 on EDDM 26L I can pickup the MUN vor 112.30 ok, bearing 174 deg distance is 9.9 miles.


Try this: in slew mode increase your height and see if you pick it up then in your aircraft as I notice you show the frequency in the MFD but it's not showing the ident name or just simply take off and head south to see if you pick it up.

Check if the backup secondary instruments show it.

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:06 am

That´s something I´ve tried several times. It doesn´t change once airborn and heading towards MUN. Still the same then.

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby Martyson » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:48 am

So you mean spawning a default aircraft at a default scenery and try to tune in the frequency of a VOR or NDB? I´m gonna check that;) Stay tuned please. And thanks for the quick reply.
Yes and you are welcome.

What did you find out?
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:19 am

Nothing yet. I don´t have that much time at the moment, but I´ll try to have a result today.

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby Martyson » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:29 am

Nothing yet. I don´t have that much time at the moment, but I´ll try to have a result today.
Ok, no problem. Whenever you have time to test.

One question.


You mentioned:
"Navaids are up to date. ORBX Global and several airports around Europe in use. Problem does NOT ONLY occur at EDDM but all around the world. "

Does this mean you have changed the default P3D Navaids?
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:12 pm

I indeed have. Never heard of navaids before until I was told I should do so on the FSL Forums. However the problem already existed when the navaids were still the default ones.

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby Martyson » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:21 pm

I indeed have. Never heard of navaids before until I was told I should do so on the FSL Forums. However the problem already existed when the navaids were still the default ones.
How did you change the default Navaids?
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:15 pm

https://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

Full Install. Just ran the installer and it said it was activated.

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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby Martyson » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:17 pm

https://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

Full Install. Just ran the installer and it said it was activated.
Have you contacted that developers support forum?
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Re: Most VORs and ADFs won´t be recignized by the plane anymore. But why?

Postby A340 Pilot » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:33 pm

No I didn´t as I thought it would have to be a problem with the FSL Bus and now I think it´s a problem with P3D itself as the same occurs with PMDG.
And as it was the same before the navaids installation as it is now, I thought it would not be a problem with the navaids either.


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